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From: Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>
To: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>, David Wei <[email protected]>,
	[email protected]
Subject: Re: [PATCH next v1 2/2] io_uring: limit local tw done
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 16:00:30 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On 11/21/24 15:22, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 11/21/24 8:15 AM, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> I'd rather entertain NOT using llists for this in the first place, as it
>> gets rid of the reversing which is the main cost here. That won't change
>> the need for a retry list necessarily, as I think we'd be better off
>> with a lockless retry list still. But at least it'd get rid of the
>> reversing. Let me see if I can dig out that patch... Totally orthogonal
>> to this topic, obviously.
> 
> It's here:
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/io-uring/[email protected]/
> 
> I did improve it further but never posted it again, fwiw.
It's nice that with sth like that we're not restricted by space and be
smarter about batching, e.g. splitting nr_tw into buckets. However, the
overhead of spinlock could be very hard if there is contention. With
block it's more uniform which CPU tw comes from, but with network it
could be much more random. That's what Dylan measured back than, and
quite a similar situation that you've seen yourself before is with
socket locks.

Another option is to try out how a lockless list (instead of stack)
with double cmpxchg would perform.

-- 
Pavel Begunkov

  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-21 15:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-20 22:14 [PATCH next v1 0/2] limit local tw done David Wei
2024-11-20 22:14 ` [PATCH next v1 1/2] io_uring: add io_local_work_pending() David Wei
2024-11-20 23:45   ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-11-20 22:14 ` [PATCH next v1 2/2] io_uring: limit local tw done David Wei
2024-11-20 23:56   ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-11-21  0:52     ` David Wei
2024-11-21 14:29       ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-11-21 14:34         ` Jens Axboe
2024-11-21 14:58           ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-11-21 15:02             ` Jens Axboe
2024-11-21  1:12     ` Jens Axboe
2024-11-21 14:25       ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-11-21 14:31         ` Jens Axboe
2024-11-21 15:07           ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-11-21 15:15             ` Jens Axboe
2024-11-21 15:22               ` Jens Axboe
2024-11-21 16:00                 ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2024-11-21 16:05                   ` Jens Axboe
2024-11-21 16:18                 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-11-21 16:20                   ` Jens Axboe
2024-11-21 16:43                     ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-11-21 16:57                       ` Jens Axboe
2024-11-21 17:05                         ` Jens Axboe
2024-11-21 17:53             ` David Wei
2024-11-21  1:12 ` [PATCH next v1 0/2] " Jens Axboe
2024-11-21 14:16 ` Jens Axboe

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