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From: Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>
To: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>, io-uring <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [RFC] do_iopoll() and *grab_env()
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2020 22:12:06 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On 12/06/2020 22:42, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 6/12/20 12:33 PM, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>> On 12/06/2020 21:02, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>> On 6/12/20 11:55 AM, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>>> On 6/12/20 11:30 AM, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>>>>> On 12/06/2020 20:02, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/11/20 9:54 AM, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>>>>>>> io_do_iopoll() can async punt a request with io_queue_async_work(),
>>>>>>> so doing io_req_work_grab_env(). The problem is that iopoll() can
>>>>>>> be called from who knows what context, e.g. from a completely
>>>>>>> different process with its own memory space, creds, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> io_do_iopoll() {
>>>>>>> 	ret = req->poll();
>>>>>>> 	if (ret == -EAGAIN)
>>>>>>> 		io_queue_async_work()
>>>>>>> 	...
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can't find it handled in io_uring. Can this even happen?
>>>>>>> Wouldn't it be better to complete them with -EAGAIN?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think a plain -EAGAIN complete would be very useful, it's kind
>>>>>> of a shitty thing to pass back to userspace when it can be avoided. For
>>>>>> polled IO, we know we're doing O_DIRECT, or using fixed buffers. For the
>>>>>> latter, there's no problem in retrying, regardless of context. For the
>>>>>> former, I think we'd get -EFAULT mapping the IO at that point, which is
>>>>>> probably reasonable. I'd need to double check, though.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's shitty, but -EFAULT is the best outcome. I care more about not
>>>>> corrupting another process' memory if addresses coincide. AFAIK it can
>>>>> happen because io_{read,write} will use iovecs for punted re-submission.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Unconditional in advance async_prep() is too heavy to be good. I'd love to
>>>>> see something more clever, but with -EAGAIN users at least can handle it.
>>>>
>>>> So how about we just grab ->task for the initial issue, and retry if we
>>>> find it through -EAGAIN and ->task == current. That'll be the most
>>>> common case, by far, and it'll prevent passes back -EAGAIN when we
>>>> really don't have to. If the task is different, then -EAGAIN makes more
>>>> sense, because at that point we're passing back -EAGAIN because we
>>>> really cannot feasibly handle it rather than just as a convenience.
>>
>> Yeah, I was even thinking to drag it through task_work just to call
>> *grab_env() there. Looks reasonable to me.
>>
>>> Something like this, totally untested. And wants a comment too.
>>
>> Looks like it. Would you leave this to me? There is another issue with
>> cancellation requiring ->task, It'd be easier to keep them together.
> 
> Guess this ties into the next email, on using task_work? I actually
> don't think that's a bad idea. If you have a low(er) queue depth device,
> the -EAGAIN path is not necessarily that common. And task_work is a lot
> more efficient for re-submittal than async work, plus needs to grab less
> resources.
> 
> So I think you should still run with it...

Ok, I'll look into this then


-- 
Pavel Begunkov

      reply	other threads:[~2020-06-13 19:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-11 15:54 [RFC] do_iopoll() and *grab_env() Pavel Begunkov
2020-06-12 17:02 ` Jens Axboe
2020-06-12 17:30   ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-06-12 17:55     ` Jens Axboe
2020-06-12 18:02       ` Jens Axboe
2020-06-12 18:33         ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-06-12 18:46           ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-06-12 19:42           ` Jens Axboe
2020-06-13 19:12             ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]

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