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From: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Stefan Metzmacher <metze@samba.org>
Cc: io-uring <io-uring@vger.kernel.org>, Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>
Subject: Re: SOCKET_URING_OP_GETSOCKOPT SOL_SOCKET restriction
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2025 17:18:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e5cac037-f729-4d3a-9fe6-2c9ba9d55894@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3b59c209-374c-4d04-ad5d-7ad8aa312c0b@kernel.dk>

On 3/28/25 16:34, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 3/28/25 9:02 AM, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>> On 3/28/25 14:30, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>> On 3/28/25 8:27 AM, Stefan Metzmacher wrote:
>>>> Hi Jens,
>>>>
>>>> while playing with the kernel QUIC driver [1],
>>>> I noticed it does a lot of getsockopt() and setsockopt()
>>>> calls to sync the required state into and out of the kernel.
>>>>
>>>> My long term plan is to let the userspace quic handshake logic
>>>> work with SOCKET_URING_OP_GETSOCKOPT and SOCKET_URING_OP_SETSOCKOPT.
>>>>
>>>> The used level is SOL_QUIC and that won't work
>>>> as io_uring_cmd_getsockopt() has a restriction to
>>>> SOL_SOCKET, while there's no restriction in
>>>> io_uring_cmd_setsockopt().
>>>>
>>>> What's the reason to have that restriction?
>>>> And why is it only for the get path and not
>>>> the set path?
>>>
>>> There's absolutely no reason for that, looks like a pure oversight?!
>>
>> Cc Breno, he can explain better, but IIRC that's because most
>> of set/get sockopt options expect user pointers to be passed in,
>> and io_uring wants to use kernel memory. It's plumbed for
>> SOL_SOCKET with sockptr_t, but there was a push back against
>> converting the rest.
> 
> Gah yes, now I remember. What's pretty annoying though, as it leaves the
> get/setsockopt parts less useful than they should be, compared to the
> regular syscalls.
> 
> Did we ever ponder ways of getting this sorted out on the net side?

I remember Breno looking at several different options.

Breno, can you remind me, why can't we convert ->getsockopt to
take a normal kernel ptr for length while passing a user ptr
for value as before?

-- 
Pavel Begunkov


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-28 17:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-28 14:27 SOCKET_URING_OP_GETSOCKOPT SOL_SOCKET restriction Stefan Metzmacher
2025-03-28 14:30 ` Jens Axboe
2025-03-28 15:02   ` Stefan Metzmacher
2025-03-28 15:08     ` Stefan Metzmacher
2025-03-28 16:24     ` Breno Leitao
2025-03-28 15:02   ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-03-28 15:03     ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-03-28 16:34     ` Jens Axboe
2025-03-28 17:18       ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2025-03-28 17:21         ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-03-28 18:22           ` Breno Leitao
2025-03-29 10:59             ` Pavel Begunkov
2025-03-28 19:41           ` Stefan Metzmacher

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