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From: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>
To: Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET v2 0/7] Improve MSG_RING DEFER_TASKRUN performance
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2024 13:36:34 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On 6/5/24 1:20 PM, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
> On 6/5/24 17:41, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> On 6/5/24 9:50 AM, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>>> On 6/4/24 19:57, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>>> On 6/3/24 7:53 AM, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>>>>> On 5/30/24 16:23, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For v1 and replies to that and tons of perf measurements, go here:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd really prefer the task_work version rather than carving
>>>>> yet another path specific to msg_ring. Perf might sounds better,
>>>>> but it's duplicating wake up paths, not integrated with batch
>>>>> waiting, not clear how affects different workloads with target
>>>>> locking and would work weird in terms of ordering.
>>>>
>>>> The duplication is really minor, basically non-existent imho. It's a
>>>> wakeup call, it's literally 2 lines of code. I do agree on the batching,
>>>
>>> Well, v3 tries to add msg_ring/nr_overflow handling to local
>>> task work, that what I mean by duplicating paths, and we'll
>>> continue gutting the hot path for supporting msg_ring in
>>> this way.
>>
>> No matter how you look at it, there will be changes to the hot path
>> regardless of whether we use local task_work like in the original, or do
>> the current approach.
> 
> The only downside for !msg_ring paths in the original was
> un-inlining of local tw_add().

You're comparing an incomplete RFC to a more complete patchset, that
will not be the only downside once you're done with the local task_work
approach when the roundtrip is avoided. And that is my comparison base,
not some half finished POC that I posted for comments.

>>> Does it work with eventfd? I can't find any handling, so next
>>> you'd be adding:
>>>
>>> io_commit_cqring_flush(ctx);
>>
>> That's merely because the flagging should be done in io_defer_wake(),
>> moving that code to the common helper as well.
> 
> Flagging? If you mean io_commit_cqring_flush() then no,
> it shouldn't and cannot be there. It's called strictly after
> posting a CQE (or queuing an overflow), which is after tw
> callback execution.

I meant the SQ ring flagging and eventfd signaling, which is currently
done in local work adding. That should go in io_defer_wake().

-- 
Jens Axboe


      reply	other threads:[~2024-06-05 19:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-30 15:23 [PATCHSET v2 0/7] Improve MSG_RING DEFER_TASKRUN performance Jens Axboe
2024-05-30 15:23 ` [PATCH 1/7] io_uring/msg_ring: split fd installing into a helper Jens Axboe
2024-05-30 15:23 ` [PATCH 2/7] io_uring/msg_ring: tighten requirement for remote posting Jens Axboe
2024-05-30 15:23 ` [PATCH 3/7] io_uring/msg_ring: avoid double indirection task_work for data messages Jens Axboe
2024-05-30 15:23 ` [PATCH 4/7] io_uring/msg_ring: avoid double indirection task_work for fd passing Jens Axboe
2024-05-30 15:23 ` [PATCH 5/7] io_uring/msg_ring: add an alloc cache for CQE entries Jens Axboe
2024-05-30 15:23 ` [PATCH 6/7] io_uring/msg_ring: remove callback_head from struct io_msg Jens Axboe
2024-05-30 15:23 ` [PATCH 7/7] io_uring/msg_ring: remove non-remote message passing Jens Axboe
2024-06-03 13:53 ` [PATCHSET v2 0/7] Improve MSG_RING DEFER_TASKRUN performance Pavel Begunkov
2024-06-04 18:57   ` Jens Axboe
2024-06-04 19:55     ` Jens Axboe
2024-06-05 15:50     ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-06-05 16:41       ` Jens Axboe
2024-06-05 19:20         ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-06-05 19:36           ` Jens Axboe [this message]

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