From: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>
To: Oleg Nesterov <[email protected]>, Peter Zijlstra <[email protected]>
Cc: Jann Horn <[email protected]>, io-uring <[email protected]>,
stable <[email protected]>, Josef <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] io_uring: use TWA_SIGNAL for task_work if the task isn't running
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 07:06:21 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
On 8/11/20 2:10 AM, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 08/11, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 09:14:02AM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>>> On 08/11, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 08:45:16AM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ->jobctl is always modified with ->siglock held, do we really need
>>>>> WRITE_ONCE() ?
>>>>
>>>> In theory, yes. The compiler doesn't know about locks, it can tear
>>>> writes whenever it feels like it.
>>>
>>> Yes, but why does this matter? Could you spell please?
>>
>> Ah, well, that I don't konw. Why do we need the READ_ONCE() ?
>>
>> It does:
>>
>>> + if (!(task->jobctl & JOBCTL_TASK_WORK) &&
>>> + lock_task_sighand(task, &flags)) {
>>
>> and the lock_task_sighand() implies barrier(), so I thought the reason
>> for the READ_ONCE() was load-tearing, and then we need WRITE_ONCE() to
>> avoid store-tearing.
>
> I don't think we really need READ_ONCE() for correctness, compiler can't
> reorder this LOAD with cmpxchg() above, and I think we don't care about
> load-tearing.
>
> But I guess we need READ_ONCE() or data_race() to shut kcsan up.
Thanks, reading through this thread makes me feel better. I agree that
we'll need READ_ONCE() just to shut up analyzers.
I'd really like to get this done at the same time as the io_uring
change. Are you open to doing the READ_ONCE() based JOBCTL_TASK_WORK
addition for 5.9? Alternatively we can retain the 1/2 patch from this
series and I'll open-code it in io_uring, but seems pointless as
io_uring is the only user of TWA_SIGNAL in the kernel anyway.
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-08-11 13:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-08-08 18:34 [PATCHSET 0/2] io_uring: use TWA_SIGNAL more carefully Jens Axboe
2020-08-08 18:34 ` [PATCH 1/2] kernel: split task_work_add() into two separate helpers Jens Axboe
2020-08-10 11:37 ` peterz
2020-08-10 15:01 ` Jens Axboe
2020-08-10 15:28 ` peterz
2020-08-10 17:51 ` Jens Axboe
2020-08-10 19:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-08-08 18:34 ` [PATCH 2/2] io_uring: use TWA_SIGNAL for task_work if the task isn't running Jens Axboe
2020-08-10 11:42 ` peterz
2020-08-10 15:02 ` Jens Axboe
2020-08-10 19:21 ` Jens Axboe
2020-08-10 20:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-08-10 20:13 ` Jens Axboe
2020-08-10 20:25 ` Jens Axboe
2020-08-10 20:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-08-10 20:35 ` Jens Axboe
2020-08-10 20:35 ` Jann Horn
2020-08-10 21:06 ` Jens Axboe
2020-08-10 21:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-08-10 21:12 ` Jens Axboe
2020-08-10 21:26 ` Jann Horn
2020-08-10 21:28 ` Jens Axboe
2020-08-10 22:01 ` Jens Axboe
2020-08-10 22:41 ` Jann Horn
2020-08-11 1:25 ` Jens Axboe
2020-08-11 6:45 ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-08-11 6:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-08-11 7:14 ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-08-11 7:26 ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-08-11 7:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-08-11 7:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-08-11 8:10 ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-08-11 13:06 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2020-08-11 14:05 ` Oleg Nesterov
2020-08-11 14:12 ` Jens Axboe
2020-08-10 21:27 ` Jens Axboe
2020-08-10 20:16 ` Jens Axboe
2020-08-13 16:25 ` Sasha Levin
2020-08-19 23:57 ` Sasha Levin
2020-08-19 23:59 ` Jens Axboe
2020-08-20 0:02 ` Jens Axboe
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