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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: io-uring@vger.kernel.org, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: io_uring and crypto
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2025 11:27:16 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f1e0ef09-572e-4345-b601-b4aea2de1052@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4016104.1759857082@warthog.procyon.org.uk>

On 10/7/25 11:11 AM, David Howells wrote:
> Hi Jens,
> 
> I was wondering if it might be possible to adapt io_uring to make
> crypto requests as io_uring primitives rather than just having
> io_uring call sendmsg and recvmsg on an AF_ALG socket.
> 
> The reason I think this might make sense is that for the certain
> crypto ops we need to pass two buffers, one input and one output
> (encrypt, decrypt, sign) or two input (verify) and this could directly
> translate to an async crypto request.
> 
> Or possibly we should have a sendrecv socket call (RPC sort of thing)
> and have io_uring drive that.

You could certainly wire it up via io_uring in either way. I don't know
the crypto API, but ideally you need something where you the issue and
completions ide split, rather than just a boring sync syscall type
thing. For the latter, io_uring can't really help you outside of punting
to a thread. Having a reliable way to do non-blocking issue and then
poll for readiness if non-blocking failed would suffice, ideally you
want a way to issue/start the operation and get a callback when it
completes.

> The tricky bit is that it would require two buffers and io_uring seems
> geared around one.

io_uring doesn't care, it's just a transport in that sense. You can
define what the SQE looks like entirely for your opcode, and have 3
buffers per operation if you like.

-- 
Jens Axboe

      parent reply	other threads:[~2025-10-07 17:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-07 17:11 io_uring and crypto David Howells
2025-10-07 17:13 ` Eric Biggers
2025-10-07 17:27 ` Jens Axboe [this message]

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