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From: Stefan Metzmacher <[email protected]>
To: Pavel Begunkov <[email protected]>,
	[email protected], [email protected],
	[email protected]
Cc: "David S . Miller" <[email protected]>,
	Jakub Kicinski <[email protected]>,
	Jonathan Lemon <[email protected]>,
	Willem de Bruijn <[email protected]>,
	Jens Axboe <[email protected]>,
	[email protected]
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next v3 23/29] io_uring: allow to pass addr into sendzc
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2022 15:30:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

Hi Pavel,

>>> Thanks for giving a thought about the API, are you trying
>>> to use it in samba?
>>
>> Yes, but I'd need SENDMSGZC and then I'd like to test,
>> which variant gives the best performance. It also depends
>> on the configured samba vfs module stack.
> 
> I can send you a branch this week if you would be
> willing to try it out as I'll be sending the "msg" variant
> only for 5.21

I'm not sure I'll have time to do runtime testing,
but it would be great to have a look at the code and give some comments
based on that.

>> I think it should be:
>>
>>                    if (up->arg)
>>                            slot->tag = up->arg;
>>                    if (!slot->notif)
>>                            continue;
>>                    io_notif_slot_flush_submit(slot, issue_flags);
>>
>> or even:
>>
>>                    slot->tag = up->arg;
>>                    if (!slot->notif)
>>                            continue;
>>                    io_notif_slot_flush_submit(slot, issue_flags);
>>
>> otherwise IORING_RSRC_UPDATE_NOTIF would not be able to reset the tag,
>> if notif was never created or already be flushed.
> 
> Ah, you want to update it for later. The idea was to affect only
> those notifiers that are flushed by this update.
> ...

notif->cqe.user_data = slot->tag; happens in io_alloc_notif(),
so the slot->tag = up->arg; here is always for the next IO_SENDZC.

With IORING_RSRC_UPDATE_NOTIF linked to a IORING_OP_SENDZC(with IORING_RECVSEND_NOTIF_FLUSH)
I basically try to reset slot->tag to the same (or related) user_data as the SENDZC itself.

So that each SENDZC generates two CQEs with the same user_data belonging
to the same userspace buffer.


> I had a similar chat with Dylan last week. I'd rather not rob SQE of
> additional u64 as there is only addr3 left and then we're fully packed,
> but there is another option we were thinking about based on OVERRIDE_TAG
> feature I scrapped from the final version of zerocopy patches.
> 
> Long story short, the idea is to copy req->cqe.user_data of a
> send(+flush) request into the notification CQE, so you'll get 2 CQEs
> with identical user_data but they can be distinguished by looking at
> cqe->flags.
> 
> What do you think? Would it work for you?

I guess that would work.

>>>> I'm also wondering what will happen if a notif will be referenced by the net layer
>>>> but the io_uring instance is already closed, wouldn't
>>>> io_uring_tx_zerocopy_callback() or __io_notif_complete_tw() crash
>>>> because notif->ctx is a stale pointer, of notif itself is already gone...
>>>
>>> io_uring will flush all slots and wait for all notifications
>>> to fire, i.e. io_uring_tx_zerocopy_callback(), so it's not a
>>> problem.
>>
>> I can't follow :-(
>>
>> What I see is that io_notif_unregister():
>>
>>                  nd = io_notif_to_data(notif);
>>                  slot->notif = NULL;
>>                  if (!refcount_dec_and_test(&nd->uarg.refcnt))
>>                          continue;
>>
>> So if the net layer still has a reference we just go on.
>>
>> Only a wild guess, is it something of:
>>
>> io_alloc_notif():
>>          ...
>>          notif->task = current;
>>          io_get_task_refs(1);
>>          notif->rsrc_node = NULL;
>>          io_req_set_rsrc_node(notif, ctx, 0);
>>          ...
>>
>> and
>>
>> __io_req_complete_put():
>>                  ...
>>                  io_req_put_rsrc(req);
>>                  /*
>>                   * Selected buffer deallocation in io_clean_op() assumes that
>>                   * we don't hold ->completion_lock. Clean them here to avoid
>>                   * deadlocks.
>>                   */
>>                  io_put_kbuf_comp(req);
>>                  io_dismantle_req(req);
>>                  io_put_task(req->task, 1);
>>                  ...
>>
>> that causes io_ring_exit_work() to wait for it.> It would be great if you or someone else could explain this in detail
>> and maybe adding some comments into the code.
> 
> Almost, the mechanism is absolutely the same as with requests,
> and notifiers are actually requests for internal purposes.
> 
> In __io_alloc_req_refill() we grab ctx->refs, which are waited
> for in io_ring_exit_work(). We usually put requests into a cache,
> so when a request is complete we don't put the ref and therefore
> in io_ring_exit_work() we also have a call to io_req_caches_free(),
> which puts ctx->refs.

Ok, thanks.

Would a close() on the ring fd block? I guess not, but the exit_work may block, correct?
So a process would be a zombie until net released all references?

metze


  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-15 13:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-28 18:56 [RFC net-next v3 00/29] io_uring zerocopy send Pavel Begunkov
2022-06-28 18:56 ` [RFC net-next v3 01/29] ipv4: avoid partial copy for zc Pavel Begunkov
2022-06-28 18:56 ` [RFC net-next v3 02/29] ipv6: " Pavel Begunkov
2022-06-28 18:56 ` [RFC net-next v3 03/29] skbuff: add SKBFL_DONT_ORPHAN flag Pavel Begunkov
2022-06-28 18:56 ` [RFC net-next v3 04/29] skbuff: carry external ubuf_info in msghdr Pavel Begunkov
2022-06-28 18:56 ` [RFC net-next v3 05/29] net: bvec specific path in zerocopy_sg_from_iter Pavel Begunkov
2022-06-28 20:06   ` Al Viro
2022-06-28 21:33     ` Pavel Begunkov
2022-06-28 22:52   ` David Ahern
2022-07-04 13:31     ` Pavel Begunkov
2022-07-05  2:28       ` David Ahern
2022-07-05 14:03         ` Pavel Begunkov
2022-07-05 22:09           ` Pavel Begunkov
2022-07-06 15:11             ` David Ahern
2022-06-28 18:56 ` [RFC net-next v3 06/29] net: optimise bvec-based zc page referencing Pavel Begunkov
2022-06-28 18:56 ` [RFC net-next v3 07/29] net: don't track pfmemalloc for managed frags Pavel Begunkov
2022-06-28 18:56 ` [RFC net-next v3 08/29] skbuff: don't mix ubuf_info of different types Pavel Begunkov
2022-06-28 18:56 ` [RFC net-next v3 09/29] ipv4/udp: support zc with managed data Pavel Begunkov
2022-06-28 18:56 ` [RFC net-next v3 10/29] ipv6/udp: " Pavel Begunkov
2022-06-28 18:56 ` [RFC net-next v3 11/29] tcp: " Pavel Begunkov
2022-06-28 18:56 ` [RFC net-next v3 12/29] tcp: kill extra io_uring's uarg refcounting Pavel Begunkov
2022-06-28 18:56 ` [RFC net-next v3 13/29] net: let callers provide extra ubuf_info refs Pavel Begunkov
2022-06-28 18:56 ` [RFC net-next v3 14/29] io_uring: opcode independent fixed buf import Pavel Begunkov
2022-06-28 18:56 ` [RFC net-next v3 15/29] io_uring: add zc notification infrastructure Pavel Begunkov
2022-06-28 18:56 ` [RFC net-next v3 16/29] io_uring: cache struct io_notif Pavel Begunkov
2022-06-28 18:56 ` [RFC net-next v3 17/29] io_uring: complete notifiers in tw Pavel Begunkov
2022-06-28 18:56 ` [RFC net-next v3 18/29] io_uring: add notification slot registration Pavel Begunkov
2022-06-28 18:56 ` [RFC net-next v3 19/29] io_uring: rename IORING_OP_FILES_UPDATE Pavel Begunkov
2022-06-28 18:56 ` [RFC net-next v3 20/29] io_uring: add zc notification flush requests Pavel Begunkov
2022-06-28 18:56 ` [RFC net-next v3 21/29] io_uring: wire send zc request type Pavel Begunkov
2022-06-28 18:56 ` [RFC net-next v3 22/29] io_uring: account locked pages for non-fixed zc Pavel Begunkov
2022-06-28 18:56 ` [RFC net-next v3 23/29] io_uring: allow to pass addr into sendzc Pavel Begunkov
2022-06-29  7:42   ` Stefan Metzmacher
2022-06-29  9:53     ` Pavel Begunkov
2022-08-13  8:45       ` Stefan Metzmacher
2022-08-15  9:46         ` Pavel Begunkov
2022-08-15 11:40           ` Stefan Metzmacher
2022-08-15 12:19             ` Pavel Begunkov
2022-08-15 13:30               ` Stefan Metzmacher [this message]
2022-08-15 14:09                 ` Pavel Begunkov
2022-06-28 18:56 ` [RFC net-next v3 24/29] io_uring: add rsrc referencing for notifiers Pavel Begunkov
2022-06-28 18:56 ` [RFC net-next v3 25/29] io_uring: sendzc with fixed buffers Pavel Begunkov
2022-06-28 18:56 ` [RFC net-next v3 26/29] io_uring: flush notifiers after sendzc Pavel Begunkov
2022-06-28 18:56 ` [RFC net-next v3 27/29] io_uring: allow to override zc tag on flush Pavel Begunkov
2022-06-28 18:56 ` [RFC net-next v3 28/29] io_uring: batch submission notif referencing Pavel Begunkov
2022-06-28 18:56 ` [RFC net-next v3 29/29] selftests/io_uring: test zerocopy send Pavel Begunkov
2022-06-28 19:03 ` [RFC net-next v3 00/29] io_uring " Pavel Begunkov

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