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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>, io-uring@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Dylan Yudaken <dyudaken@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] io_uring/zctx: separate notification user_data
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2026 08:55:16 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fc217246-2397-4ae4-8354-7ed0c498d23c@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <69a2d3ce-5c77-44f9-99be-1b558cf4c4ca@gmail.com>

On 2/16/26 8:53 AM, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
> On 2/16/26 15:52, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> On 2/16/26 8:48 AM, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>>> On 2/16/26 15:10, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>>> On 2/16/26 4:48 AM, Pavel Begunkov wrote:
>>>>> People previously asked for the notification CQE to have a different
>>>>> user_data value from the main request completion. It's useful to
>>>>> separate buffer and request handling logic and avoid separately
>>>>> refcounting the request.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let the user pass the notification user_data in sqe->addr3. If zero,
>>>>> it'll inherit sqe->user_data as before. It doesn't change the rules for
>>>>> when the user can expect a notification CQE, and it should still check
>>>>> the IORING_CQE_F_MORE flag.
>>>>
>>>> This should use and sqe->ioprio flag to manage it, otherwise you're
>>>> excluding 0. Which may not be important in and of itself, but the
>>>> flag approach is expected way to do this.
>>>
>>> What's the benefit? It's not unreasonable to exclude zero, it won't
>>> limit any use cases, and it's not new either (i.e. buffer tags).
>>> On the other hand, the user will now have to modify two fields
>>> instead of one, which is cleaner. And you're taking one extra bit
>>> out of 16bit ->ioprio, which is not critical if it's all going to
>>> be flags, but it wouldn't be an outrageous idea to take 8 bits
>>> out of it for some index, for example.
>>
>> The benefit is that it's weird to exclude a given user_data value, just
>> so it can get used as both a key and a flag. IMHO much cleaner to have a
>> flag for it which explicitly says "use the user_data I provide". Also
>> easier to explain in docs, set this flag and then the value in X will be
>> the user_data for the completion.
> 
> Ok, I'll respin, let's go with wasting bits for nothing.

It's not like they are a scarce resource, and if we need more than 16
bits to modify send/recv behavior, then arguably we have bigger
problems.

-- 
Jens Axboe

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-16 15:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-16 11:48 [PATCH 1/1] io_uring/zctx: separate notification user_data Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-16 15:10 ` Jens Axboe
2026-02-16 15:48   ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-16 15:52     ` Jens Axboe
2026-02-16 15:53       ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-16 15:55         ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2026-02-16 17:20           ` Pavel Begunkov
2026-02-16 17:27             ` Jens Axboe

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