From: [email protected] (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Linus Torvalds <[email protected]>
Cc: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>, io-uring <[email protected]>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <[email protected]>,
Oleg Nesterov <[email protected]>,
Stefan Metzmacher <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] signal: don't allow sending any signals to PF_IO_WORKER threads
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2021 16:38:12 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjLMy+J20ZSBec4iarw2NeSu5sWXm6wdMH59n-e0Qe06g@mail.gmail.com> (Linus Torvalds's message of "Sat, 20 Mar 2021 10:56:36 -0700")
Linus Torvalds <[email protected]> writes:
> On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 9:19 AM Eric W. Biederman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> The creds should be reasonably in-sync with the rest of the threads.
>
> It's not about credentials (despite the -EPERM).
>
> It's about the fact that kernel threads cannot handle signals, and
> then get caught in endless loops of "if (sigpending()) return
> -EAGAIN".
>
> For a normal user thread, that "return -EAGAIN" (or whatever) will end
> up returning an error to user space - and before it does that, it will
> go through the "oh, returning to user space, so handle signal" path.
> Which will clear sigpending etc.
>
> A thread that never returns to user space fundamentally cannot handle
> this. The sigpending() stays on forever, the signal never gets
> handled, the thread can't do anything.
>
> So delivering a signal to a kernel thread fundamentally cannot work
> (although we do have some threads that explicitly see "oh, if I was
> killed, I will exit" - think things like in-kernel nfsd etc).
I agree that getting a kernel thread to receive a signal is quite
tricky. But that is not what the patch affects.
The patch covers the case when instead of specifying the pid of the
process to kill(2) someone specifies the tid of a thread. Which implies
that type is PIDTYPE_TGID, and in turn the signal is being placed on the
t->signal->shared_pending queue. Not the thread specific t->pending
queue.
So my question is since the signal is delivered to the process as a
whole why do we care if someone specifies the tid of a kernel thread,
rather than the tid of a userspace thread?
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-03-20 21:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-03-20 15:38 [PATCHSET 0/2] PF_IO_WORKER signal tweaks Jens Axboe
2021-03-20 15:38 ` [PATCH 1/2] signal: don't allow sending any signals to PF_IO_WORKER threads Jens Axboe
2021-03-20 16:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-03-20 17:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-03-20 21:38 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2021-03-20 22:42 ` Jens Axboe
2021-03-21 14:54 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-03-21 15:40 ` Jens Axboe
2021-03-20 15:38 ` [PATCH 2/2] signal: don't allow STOP on " Jens Axboe
2021-03-20 16:21 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-03-22 16:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
2021-03-22 16:15 ` Oleg Nesterov
2021-03-20 16:26 ` [PATCHSET 0/2] PF_IO_WORKER signal tweaks Eric W. Biederman
2021-03-20 17:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-03-20 19:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2021-03-20 22:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-03-20 22:53 ` Jens Axboe
2021-03-21 15:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-03-21 15:42 ` Jens Axboe
2021-03-20 22:56 ` Jens Axboe
2021-03-20 17:05 ` kernel test robot
2021-03-20 17:05 ` kernel test robot
2021-03-20 19:10 ` kernel test robot
2021-03-22 16:05 ` Oleg Nesterov
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
[email protected] \
[email protected] \
[email protected] \
[email protected] \
[email protected] \
[email protected] \
[email protected] \
[email protected] \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox