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From: Jens Axboe <[email protected]>
To: Olivier Langlois <[email protected]>,
	Stefan Roesch <[email protected]>,
	[email protected], [email protected]
Cc: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PATCH v15 0/7] io_uring: add napi busy polling support
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2024 13:52:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>

On 1/31/24 12:56 PM, Olivier Langlois wrote:
> On Wed, 2024-01-31 at 12:59 -0500, Olivier Langlois wrote:
>> On Wed, 2024-01-31 at 10:32 -0700, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for testing!
>>>
>>> Any chance that you could run some tests with and without NAPI that
>>> help
>>> validate that it actually works? That part is what I'm most
>>> interested
>>> in, not too worried about the stability of it as I have scrutinized
>>> it
>>> pretty close already.
>>>
>>
>> There is maybe a test that I can perform. The data that I receive is
>> timestamped. I have a small test program that checks the age of the
>> updates on their reception...
>>
>> I would expect that it should be possible to perceive the busy
>> polling
>> effect by comparing the average update age with and without the
>> feature
>> enabled...
>>
>> A word of warning... The service that my client is connecting to has
>> relocated recently. I used to have an RTT of about 8mSec with it to
>> about 400-500 mSec today...
>>
>> because of the huge RTT, I am unsure that the test is going to be
>> conclusive at all...
>>
>> However, I am also in the process of relocating my client closer to
>> the
>> service. If you can wait a week or so, I should able to do that test
>> with a RTT < 1 mSec...
>>
>> Beside that, I could redo the same test that Stefan did with the ping
>> client/server setup but would that test add any value to the current
>> collective knowledge?
>>
>> I'll do the update age test when I restart my client and I'll report
>> back the result but my expectations aren't very high that it is going
>> to be conclusive due to the huge RTT.
>>
>>
> As I expected, the busy polling difference in the update age test is so
> small compared to the RTT that the result is inconclusive, IMHO...
> 
> The number of collected updates to build the stats is 500.
> 
> System clocks are assumed to be synchronized and the RTT is the
> difference between the local time and the update timestamp.
> Actually, it may be more accurate to say that the displayed RTT values
> are in fact TT...
> 
> latency NO napi busy poll:
> [2024-01-31 11:28:34] INFO Main/processCollectedData rtt
> min/avg/max/mdev = 74.509/76.752/115.969/3.110 ms
> 
> latency napi busy poll:
> [2024-01-31 11:33:05] INFO Main/processCollectedData rtt
> min/avg/max/mdev = 75.347/76.740/134.588/1.648 ms
> 
> I'll redo the test once my RTT is closer to 1mSec. The relative gain
> should be more impressive...

Also happy to try and run it here, if you can share it? If not I have
some other stuff I can try as well, with netbench.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-31 20:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-08 16:38 [PATCH v15 0/7] io_uring: add napi busy polling support Stefan Roesch
2023-06-08 16:38 ` [PATCH v15 1/7] net: split off __napi_busy_poll from napi_busy_poll Stefan Roesch
2023-06-08 19:33   ` kernel test robot
2023-06-08 16:38 ` [PATCH v15 2/7] net: add napi_busy_loop_rcu() Stefan Roesch
2023-06-08 16:38 ` [PATCH v15 3/7] io-uring: move io_wait_queue definition to header file Stefan Roesch
2023-06-08 16:38 ` [PATCH v15 4/7] io-uring: add napi busy poll support Stefan Roesch
2023-06-08 16:38 ` [PATCH v15 5/7] io-uring: add sqpoll support for napi busy poll Stefan Roesch
2023-06-08 16:38 ` [PATCH v15 6/7] io_uring: add register/unregister napi function Stefan Roesch
2023-06-08 16:38 ` [PATCH v15 7/7] io_uring: add prefer busy poll to register and unregister napi api Stefan Roesch
2024-01-30 21:20 ` [PATCH v15 0/7] io_uring: add napi busy polling support Olivier Langlois
2024-01-30 22:59   ` Jens Axboe
2024-01-31  5:30     ` Olivier Langlois
2024-01-31 17:22     ` Olivier Langlois
2024-01-31 17:32       ` Jens Axboe
2024-01-31 17:59         ` Olivier Langlois
2024-01-31 19:56           ` Olivier Langlois
2024-01-31 20:52             ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2024-01-31 21:03               ` Olivier Langlois
2024-02-02 20:20               ` Olivier Langlois
2024-02-02 22:58                 ` Jens Axboe

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